In this episode of CYBR.Minded, Dr. Dustin Sachs sits down with cybersecurity executive and former CISO Kayla Williams to explore why burnout should be treated as a cybersecurity risk, not simply a people problem. They discuss how chronic overload can affect judgment, escalation, communication, and trust, creating hidden weaknesses within otherwise mature security programs. Kayla shares practical ways leaders can identify these warning signs through key risk indicators, stronger reporting cultures, and a deeper understanding of their teams. The conversation also explores how better processes, psychological safety, and attention to the human side of security can help build more resilient organizations.
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Things mentioned:
- Williams Rose.ai - https://www.williamsrose.ai/
- Reddit Hit by Phishing Attack - https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/reddit-hit-phishing-attack-source/
- Kitty Genovese and the Bystander Effect - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8692770/
- Cyberminds - https://www.cybermindz.org
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In this episode:
- Host: Dr. Dustin Sachs
- Guest: Kayla Williams
- Director: Bill Brenner
- Producer: Lauren Andrus
Produced in partnership with Psybercog Labs
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