In this episode of CYBR.Minded, Shoshana Gourdin joins Dr. Dustin Sachs to explore why secure behavior is about more than policies and training. They discuss how morale, executive function, trust, stress, and workplace conditions can shape the decisions people make when it matters most. The conversation challenges security leaders to look beyond individual mistakes and design systems that work for real people operating under real-world pressure.
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- Security Weekly Conversation - https://www.scworld.com/search?q=shoshana%20gourdin
- Frank Abagnale - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale
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In this episode:
- Host: Dr. Dustin Sachs
- Guest: Shoshana Gourdin
- Director: Bill Brenner
- Producer: Lauren Andrus
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