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# Separating the Wheat from the Chaff with Alfred Huger
- URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/separating-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-with-alfred-huger/
- Published: 2026-09-02T12:01:18.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-02T12:05:33.000Z
- Author: CYBR.SEC.Media
- Tags: podcast, CYBR.SEC.CAST, Agentic AI, AI SOC

In this episode of CYBR.SEC.CAST, Michael Farnum and Sam Van Ryder sit down with Alfred Huger, co-founder and Chief Product Officer at Command Zero, to explore the rapidly evolving world of agentic security operations. They discuss what organizations should consider before moving toward an AI-driven SOC, from establishing clear performance baselines and understanding costs to giving AI the business context it needs to make better decisions. Alfred also breaks down the importance of role-based access controls, governance, and balancing human oversight with the increasing speed of AI-powered attacks. The conversation offers a practical look at what CISOs should be asking as agentic SOC technology moves from emerging concept to real-world deployment.

*This episode is sponsored by Command Zero*

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[AI Attacks Are Closing the SOC’s Human Oversight WindowAs attackers automate cyberattacks at machine speed, SOC teams may soon have to let AI agents act without human approval — making RBAC, business context and autonomous-response guardrails critical security controls. (Sponsored by Command Zero)![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/icon/CYBR.SEC.Media-Logo-copy-1d2cc89a-63e0-40bd-a06a-0f44bc728abe.jpg)CYBR.SEC.MediaBill Brenner![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/thumbnail/0bb5d8af-8521-4443-a06f-52d51a32fc36-6573f99d-317e-416c-bf41-21295f42d5cc.png)](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/ai-attacks-are-closing-the-socs-human-in-the-loop-window/)

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- Guest: [Alfred Huger](https://www.linkedin.com/in/alhuger/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
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