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# It Sucks to Be First with Robert Hansen
- URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/it-sucks-to-be-first-with-robert-hansen/
- Published: 2025-06-25T11:54:10.000Z
- Updated: 2025-07-02T13:49:36.000Z
- Author: Lauren Andrus
- Tags: podcast, Artificial Intelligence, CYBR.SEC.CAST

We’re back with another keynote speaker, Robert “RSnake” Hansen! He chats with Michael and Sam about his new book, *AI’s Best Friend* (and how to get a free copy!), how he started hacking, and his upcoming HOU.SEC.CON. presentation around his research on the CVSS framework. 

**Things Mentioned:**

- HSC User Group on June 26, 2025 – [https://www.hscusergroup.com](https://www.hscusergroup.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Get your HOU.SEC.CON. Ticket before they go up on July 1, 2025 - [https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/regProcessStep1?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f](https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/regProcessStep1?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f&ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- CYBR.SEC.Media - [https://www.cybrsecmedia.com](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/)
- Robert’s Book – *AI’s Best Friend* \- [https://www.amazon.com/Best-Friend-Robert-RSnake-Hansen/dp/B0CWKY91WM](https://www.amazon.com/Best-Friend-Robert-RSnake-Hansen/dp/B0CWKY91WM?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Secrets of the Super Hacker by the Knightmare - [https://a.co/d/9ekgGvW](https://a.co/d/9ekgGvW?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- EHAP - [https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/hacker-group-battles-child-porn/](https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/hacker-group-battles-child-porn/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- The Lawnmower Man - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Lawnmower\_Man\_(film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The%5FLawnmower%5FMan%5F%28film%29?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)

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