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# Dumb IoT Devices with Stephen Cravey
- URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/dumb-iot-devices-with-stephen-cravey/
- Published: 2026-09-09T12:33:27.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-09T12:58:44.000Z
- Author: CYBR.SEC.Media
- Tags: Appliance Security, cybersecurity, CYBR.HAK.CAST, Device Security, IoT, podcast

In this episode of CYBR.HAK.CAST, Michael and Phil chat with Principal Cybersecurity Advisor, and CYBR.HAK.CON. speaker, Stephen Cravey to explore a career shaped by decades of change in technology and cybersecurity. Stephen shares stories from his early days in computing and information security, including his involvement in a major international cybercrime investigation with the FBI. The conversation then turns to the often-overlooked security risks hiding inside IoT and embedded devices, from connected door locks and toothbrushes to some truly unexpected smart gadgets. Stephen explains why organizations need to think more carefully about the security capabilities of the hardware they build, buy, and connect to their environments.

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**Related:**

[IoT Security: Your Toothbrush Is a Computer TooStephen Cravey’s CYBR.SEC.CON 2026 talk explores the security blind spots inside smart locks, appliances and everyday IoT devices — and why organizations may have little idea what is actually running on them.![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/icon/CYBR.SEC.Media-Logo-copy-fd7e27f0-85a1-4a7c-a2bd-e2d2c19bf29a.jpg)CYBR.SEC.MediaBill Brenner![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/thumbnail/d547f331-86c2-40d5-b293-4887b43a240d-354e045c-7404-4cd6-b5cd-8fb0de1ea377.png)](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/your-toothbrush-is-a-computer-are-you-securing-it-like-one/)

[Star Wars, 2600 and a Call to the NSA: Stephen Cravey’s Cybersecurity Origin StoryBefore cybersecurity was much of an industry, Stephen Cravey followed his curiosity from Star Wars and BBSs to the NSA’s Rainbow Books — and eventually into a major FBI cybercrime investigation.![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/icon/CYBR.SEC.Media-Logo-copy-d73d5a40-0099-4b2b-a0c8-4b56e8346f3f.jpg)CYBR.SEC.MediaBill Brenner![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/thumbnail/6e6e223a-9a31-4f7a-a0a6-c834e7b6f922-6e37f1b1-49c5-436b-b9a2-d73e6139919f.png)](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/star-wars-2600-and-a-call-to-the-nsa-stephen-craveys-cybersecurity-origin-story/)

**Thinks Mentioned:**

- Cyber Warrior podcast - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGfJ5ZY9x0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGfJ5ZY9x0&ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- PrOTect IT All Podcast - [https://protectitallpod.com/ep122/](https://protectitallpod.com/ep122/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- The MIT Guide to Lock Picking - [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/21896637-mit-guide-to-lock-picking ](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/21896637-mit-guide-to-lock-picking?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- CYBR.SEC.CON. Villages - [https://www.cybrseccon.com/villages](https://www.cybrseccon.com/villages?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Codes, Ciphers, and secret writing by Martin Gardner - [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/44953.Codes\_Ciphers\_and\_Secret\_Writing](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/44953.Codes%5FCiphers%5Fand%5FSecret%5FWriting?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Rainbow books - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow\_Series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow%5FSeries?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- My Friend Cayla Doll - [https://www.weforum.org/stories/2021/03/smart-toys-your-child-s-best-friend-or-a-creepy-surveillance-tool/](https://www.weforum.org/stories/2021/03/smart-toys-your-child-s-best-friend-or-a-creepy-surveillance-tool/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Stephen’s CYBR.HAK.CON. 2026 Talk - [https://youtu.be/RAdpPoT3hmo?si=GjfeWotrJBtJozAy](https://youtu.be/RAdpPoT3hmo?si=GjfeWotrJBtJozAy&ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- See Stephen’s CYBR.SEC.CON. 2026 talk “Software Security Issues for Small IoT SoCs on September 16, 2026 at 11:00am in the CYBR.HAK.CON. track in room 320A at the George R. Brown Convention Center

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