> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Chasing the White Rabbit with Jacob Krell - URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/chasing-the-white-rabbit-with-jacob-krell/ - Published: 2026-10-21T11:39:08.000Z - Updated: 2026-10-21T11:47:05.000Z - Author: CYBR.SEC.Media - Tags: AI vs. CTF, Capture The Flag, CYBR.HAK.CAST, CYBR.SEC.Community, CYBR.SEC.CON. 2026, Agentic AI, cybersecurity, podcast In this episode of CYBR.HAK.CAST, Michael Farnum and Phillip Wylie sit down with Jacob Krell of Suzu Labs to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming Capture the Flag (CTF) competitions, accelerating vulnerability discovery, and challenging traditional hacking skills. The growing importance of deception technology and hands-on cybersecurity experience will define what the future holds for hackers and defenders alike. Do you have a question for the hosts? Reach out to us at media@cscgroupllc.com **Related articles:** [AI Is Changing Capture the Flag CompetitionsAI agents are solving hacking challenges faster than humans, threatening CTF competitions and forcing cybersecurity professionals to rethink how offensive security skills are developed and measured.![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/icon/CYBR.SEC.Media-Logo-copy-fbe6961f-607a-4201-9a05-ddcc82ffb698.jpg)CYBR.SEC.MediaBill Brenner![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/thumbnail/c40a843f-c253-4ae9-b2be-ec529f0cefe5-82ce3df2-40f8-4664-af27-36bbf475344f.png)](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/ai-is-killing-capture-the-flag-competitions-what-happens-to-human-hackers/) [How AI Is Changing Capture the Flag HackingAs AI agents accelerate cyberattacks and vulnerability discovery, security experts see new opportunities to turn honeypots, false targets and dynamic deception into powerful defenses against automated threats.![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/icon/CYBR.SEC.Media-Logo-copy-11ecec9d-acec-45ed-97e7-7a53a65716a2.jpg)CYBR.SEC.MediaBill Brenner![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/ab/67/ab676516-71e3-473d-8f73-9e0692f5aaee/content/images/thumbnail/31c7fad1-c6b2-4a9f-b182-77b4c042fe88-89b53569-77e3-4b82-92b5-14f8d15e6adb.png)](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/ai-powered-hacking-is-giving-deception-technology-a-second-life/) **Things Mentioned:** - CYBR.HAK.CON. Podcast Listener Discount Code: hakcast15 - Jacob Krell’s CYBR.SEC.CON. 2026 talk: https://youtu.be/Mr1-phRij48?si=2lQMg3LxrhyDaD9H - Jacob Krell’s Death of the CTF Blog: [https://suzulabs.com/suzu-labs-blog/the-death-of-the-ctf-how-agentic-ai-is-reshaping-competitive-hacking](https://suzulabs.com/suzu-labs-blog/the-death-of-the-ctf-how-agentic-ai-is-reshaping-competitive-hacking?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Dave Kennedy/NightBeacon: [https://binarydefense.com/company/dave-kennedy](https://binarydefense.com/company/dave-kennedy?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - The Language of Deception by Justin Hutchens: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Deception-Weaponizing-Next-Generation/dp/1394222548 **In this episode:** - Host: [Michael Farnum](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mfarnum/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Host: [Phillip Wylie](https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillipwylie/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Guest: [Jacob Krell](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-krell/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Director: [Bill Brenner](https://www.linkedin.com/in/billbrenner/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Producer: [Lauren Andrus](https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenmandrus/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - Music by: [Kike Gut](https://www.freepik.com/audio/artist/kike-gutz?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)z **Keep up with our Conferences and Events:** - [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybrsecevents?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [X](https://twitter.com/cybrsecevents?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/cybrsecevents) - [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/cybrsecevents?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@cybr.sec.events?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [CYBR.SEC.CON.](https://www.cybrseccon.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [OT.SEC.CON.](https://www.otseccon.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [CYBR.HAK.CON.](https://www.cybrhakcon.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) **Keep up with CYBR.SEC.Media:** - [LinkedIn](https://www.buzzsprout.com/2237227?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [X](https://x.com/CYBRSECMedia?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575273111032) - [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/cybrsecmedia?igsh=ZjJ0ZHF1ejJ5NGo2&utm%5Fsource=qr) - [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@cybr.sec.media?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@cybrsecmedia?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) **Learn About CYBR.SEC.Careers Non-Profit Efforts** - [CYBR.SEC.Careers](https://www.cybrseccareers.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) **Subscribe to the podcast:** - [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cybr-hak-cast/id1851282627?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/6BRDYfAw7zvVp2gK8tMism?si=54c6ebed419d4f9d&ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [YouTube](https://share.google/6TX9mTbeyDmYOju3z?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) **Listen to our other shows:** - [CYBR.SEC.CAST](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/tag/cybr-sec-cast/) - [CYBR.Minded](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/tag/cybr-minded/) - [CYBR.Signal](https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/tag/cybr-signal/) **Thank you to our Media Partners:** - [BarCode Podcast](https://www.barcodesecurity.com/podcast?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Cyber Distortion Podcast](https://cyberdistortionpodcast.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Kill Chain Radio](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/len-noe%5Fcoming-soon-activity-7427353254482755584-7ZSP?utm%5Fsource=share&utm%5Fmedium=member%5Fdesktop&rcm=ACoAABItDFUBkOvd135bwOgGWtX0r5DL%5F-%5F1V7g) - [The Phillip Wylie Show](https://thehackermaker.com/pws-podcast/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com) - [Vulnerable U](https://www.vulnu.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)