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# Busy is the New Stupid with Ross Young
- URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/busy-is-the-new-stupid-with-ross-young/
- Published: 2026-07-30T11:40:52.000Z
- Updated: 2026-07-30T11:48:46.000Z
- Author: CYBR.SEC.Media
- Tags: CISO, Cybersecurity Executive, CYBR.Minded, podcast

Why do organizations keep investing in cybersecurity without feeling more secure? In this episode of CYBR.Minded, Dr. Dustin Sachs and cybersecurity executive, educator, and CISO Tradecraft co-host Ross Young explore why bigger budgets, more tools, and expanding control frameworks do not always reduce risk. They discuss threat-based planning, stronger metrics, tool sprawl, ineffective risk registers, outdated compliance requirements, and how leaders can focus limited resources on the threats and safeguards that matter most.

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**Things mentioned:** 

- Dr. Eric Cole - <https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/in-appreciation-of-dr-eric-cole/>
- Security Theater - [https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2009/11/beyond\_security\_thea.html](https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2009/11/beyond%5Fsecurity%5Fthea.html?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- CISO Series - [https://cisoseries.com](https://cisoseries.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Cybersecurity's Dirty Secret: Why Most Budgets Go to Waste By Ross Young - [https://a.co/d/0ijQYNHw](https://a.co/d/0ijQYNHw?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Cyber Defense Matrix - [https://cyberdefensematrix.com](https://cyberdefensematrix.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- CISO Tradecraft - [https://www.cisotradecraft.com](https://www.cisotradecraft.com/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- CISO Retreat - [https://www.cisotradecraft.com/cisoretreat](https://www.cisotradecraft.com/cisoretreat?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Recognition Is a Cybersecurity Control: What Challenge Coins Teach Us About Behavior Change - [https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/recognition-cybersecurity-control-what-challenge-us-dr-dustin-kav1c/](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/recognition-cybersecurity-control-what-challenge-us-dr-dustin-kav1c/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)

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- Host: [Dr. Dustin Sachs](https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinsachs/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
- Guest: [Ross Young](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrrossyoung/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
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- Editor: [Ivan Basconcillo](https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsmeivan9361/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)

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