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# AI vs. AI: Scott Deluke on the Future of Cybersecurity
- URL: https://www.cybrsecmedia.com/ai-vs-ai-with-scott-deluke/
- Published: 2026-07-01T12:07:09.000Z
- Updated: 2026-07-01T12:31:17.000Z
- Description: In this episode of CYBR.HAK.CAST, hosts Michael and Phil speak with Scott Deluke of Abnormal AI live from the inaugural CYBR.HAK.CON.!
- Author: CYBR.SEC.Media
- Tags: AI Security, podcast, CYBR.HAK.CAST

In this episode of CYBR.HAK.CAST, hosts Michael and Phil speak with Scott Deluke of Abnormal AI live from the inaugural CYBR.HAK.CON.! The conversation explores how email security has evolved from signature-based defenses to behavioral and AI-driven detection, especially as attackers use AI to create more convincing, scalable, and zero-day phishing campaigns. Scott explains why defense-in-depth still matters, including tools like DMARC, Microsoft or Google-native protections, and a “plus one” email security strategy. 

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- Guest: [Scott Deluke](https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-deluke/?ref=cybrsecmedia.com)
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